Feminism Myth Busting – The Dialogue #53

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For our first Myth Busting epsiode, we’ll be talking about Feminism, the pay gap (pay inequality). We also bust the myth that feminism is good for men (or women). Feminism is not good for me, or for women. It ignores the truth of the genders, it diminishes the power of the male gender, and the female gender. Feminism is cultural cancer. It kills the person, and it kills the family and the culture.

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  1. Tim/Cal,
    You both dealt well with the subjects. The media is trying to sell a narrative that is functionally distorted where equally means identical not complimentary. The west in general is saturated with political correctness,and the essence of the person is displaced if not destroyed altogether and we wonder why divorce is at such high levels even among us Catholics.
    Tim if the USA puts in the wrong candidate all hell will break out in your neck of the woods.
    I will catch you both next week

  2. Tim, 
    Enjoyed the episode as always. It was very interesting to see you both agree so strongly with each other in this one.
    I’m going to respectfully disagree with you when you veer off into education. I’m a teacher – middle school math – 7th and 8th grade with 5 years experience. I do penalize students for misbehavior. Without rules, or expectations, the students will run rampant as I’m sure you know as a CCD teacher. Frankly speaking the school that I am at serves a lot of inner city kids that largely struggle with self control and quite a few wouldn’t make it at a public school so they are at our charter school. What I teach them, by my rules and expectations, is that there is a time and a place for fooling around/roughhousing and that’s not at school (where your job is to learn). Appropriateness of behavior (and timing) is key. I penalize behavior because it’s a rule and it’s not an appropriate time, not because boys shouldn’t be boys. I know you mentioned this very briefly, but there is no safe medium. Either you hold students accountable to it, or you let it go crazy. As a teacher, if I want to get anything done, I have to have a standard. I can tell you also, from a teacher’s standpoint, that fooling around can very quickly turn into a fist fight and dangerous situation for multiple students.  I don’t need to promote or let roughhousing happen to show students what it takes to be a man.

  3. GabrielDannemiller Thanks for your valuable input. What we’re starting to see here is that penalties against behavior are worked into their actual grade-average. So you’ll have a kid do great in everything he’s being taught, but he’ll get a B for his work, rather than the A that he earned.  Since only boys are rambunctious, girls don’t have to deal with this obstacle to fair grading. Do girls get penalized behavioral flaws intrinsic to their gender?  
    When I was in school there was a separate grade/mark for conduct, ranging from U (Unsatisfactory) to E (Excellent), and a few notches in between.  But that was not factored into our “real” grade, it was mainly so that there was a record to hold the student accountable and to report to the parents.  
    I agree that children should be taught self control, and that there is a time and a place for roughhousing and/or being rambunctious but I believe at a point we cross a line.  It all depends on how the grading is used, and how rigid a teacher is. And of course it depends on the specific behavior of the child.
    If kids don’t know how to let off steam in a healthy, appropriate way, we should be penalizing the schools, not the kids.

  4. Hello Tim,
    When was the school system restructured in the US? When you don’t reward the work for its quality then you have a clear discrimination issues. Are they trying to deform the boys by making them spineless? The health of the country depends on proper formation of all the children within its borders. The education issue is too important it should not be politicised and that seems to be the trend based on your comments

  5. JediMasterTim GabrielDannemiller I don’t know a school where it is the case that one gets penalized in grades for behavior. Do you? I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but are you sure you know that that really is going on? And if it is in fact happening, I would guess it probably happens more at the lower grades than the upper grades (speaking as a middle school teacher). Certainly if that is the case it is wrong, but you didn’t make that your argument in the show – you left the ‘grades’ part out of it (unless I am mistaken). Grades are earned by mastery of the content and (should) have nothing to do with one’s behavior in class – we are agreed on that point. I don’t grade anyone in math on their ability to grade in class, however, one’s behavior DOES generally impact one’s grades. 
    When someone is not doing what they need to do in the classroom, I note it in the comments on their report cards, or call home (sometimes), or mention it in conferences, but nowhere would I give someone a lesser grade then they have earned. I like the idea of a conduct indicator and believe it to be very useful (assuming a teacher has parent support).
    Rigidity varies from teacher to teacher, but every teacher’s responsibility is the students safety. That even takes precedence even over learning in the classroom (and rightly so).
    Perhaps it isn’t the schools that are the problem, but the parents. Parents should teach their kids how to let of steam, not the schools. I’m not saying I don’t teach anger management, because I certainly do, but you can’t hold the school’s accountable to something that they are not the primary responders for. Schools already get enough flac – believe me.
    I actually don’t have a district since I work in a Charter school – we are a one school entity in that regard. And yes, each school is different. 
    Gabriel

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