Trump Travel Ban (And liberal free-speech ban) – The Dialogue #65


Talking about the horrendous media coverage of, and public outrage over the so-called Trump travel ban. Also we talk about a riot that broke out at Berkeley to shut down the free-speech of Milo Yiannopoulos, and similar hysteria at NYU to protest another conservative speaker, Gavin McInnes. This episode can be summed up in one line: “We told you so!”



  1. Tim,

    Good episode! Enjoyed the dialogue!

    Let’s go even deeper and tackle this Milo event from a purely Catholic perspective.

    Milo, the LGBTQ 2016 Person of the Year, shamelessly promotes the homosexual lifestyle. Gavin McInnes is a cohort of Milo’s who also promotes the normalisation
    of homosexuality for personal gain.

    Hitler and the Nazis are infamous for their racism and
    eugenics (evil) and yet they allied with the Turkish Ottomans and Japan during
    World War 1/2 despite their brown skin / slanted eyes. Why?

    This is where the context and balance component comes in. First note, I am not endorsing any of the sources
    shared. Each particular article and video below offers us a piece to
    the puzzle presented:

    1) Gavin and Milo pashing each other:

    2) A brief historical analysis of how evil baits
    the naïve with an alluring hook such as “racial superiority” (or liberal sexual
    attitudes) and then aligns this evil with wider evils (Satan’s kingdom as a whole) once the fish have been
    baited e.g. Nazi Germany (racism, fascism and eugenics) and Ottoman Turkey’s (Islamism)
    WWI alliance:

    3) A brief explanation of the Hegelian Dialectic
    e.g. using a raging homosexual on the right capitalist “conservative” side of
    politics to fight socialist/communist “liberal” progressives on the left

    If that’s not the Hegelian Dialectic (controlled opposition)
    at work, what is?

    Today homosexual acts have been normalised on the left and
    right side of politics. The same militant homosexuals/liberals who have already caused Christian parents in America to be fined and/or imprisoned for peacefully refusing to bake a same sex wedding cake or issue a marriage certificate. The same militant homosexuals/liberals who are pushing for kids to be taught homosexuality and transgenderism is normal at schools. Trump might have put his foot on the break for the moment in terms of protecting the religious freedoms of Christians. What happens when America gets its next anti-Christian President like an Obama (who is a Christian in name only)? Where would America be if Hilary won the election? What will this President do with his/her executive order powers? Same sex  marriage is now a “right” after all as deemed by the Supreme Court and Trump is not challenging this.

    Homosexuality is the newest addition to every other evil that’s
    already been normalised on both sides of the false left-right paradigm e.g. adultery, divorce, contraceptives and fornication. The
    slippery slope of moral regression continues its course as planned by antichrist. The truth isn’t left or right. It is Catholic i.e. universal.

    Wise up my friends, wise up. Think before falling for the
    bait. I understand this is difficult when many leaders in our own Church support
    homosexual acts as a legal right despite what the Bible and the Church teaches:

    Homosexuality refers
    to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or
    predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a
    great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its
    psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred
    Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141
    tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically
    disordered.”142 They are contrary to the natural law. They
    close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine
    affective and sexual complementarity. Under
    no circumstances can they be approved.

    These are the Churches words not mine yet today I’m considered
    part of a radical fringe minority by the left and right for acknowledging homosexual
    “acts” (forget about so called same sex marriage) are a grave moral evil and
    should be illegal. This isn’t hysteria talking. It’s fact. It’s the reality we
    now find ourselves in.

    The homosexual agenda is a grave threat that must be taken seriously even if our leaders have become impotent at this time. The Church, like the earth, has her seasons, and right now it’s autumn/winter time in the Church. The renewal will likely come from the blood of martyrs. Our leaders are presently failing in their duties to speak the truth to power, laity and the wider public. So again, I sympathise with your naivety here without supporting it.

    The nuance of the Churches teaching on same sex attraction is simply this: Same sex attraction is not a crime in and of itself. It is a crime against God and civilisation to indulge and act upon this attraction. The repentant homosexual can be forgiven for such acts. The act itself should not be approved under any circumstance though.

    The legalisation of homosexuality is an “approval” of it. Celebrating the inclusion of homosexual rights activists at a St Patrick’s Day Parade e.g. the legal right to sodomise, is an “approval” of these actions:

    Why focus on the violent hoards without going deeper into the issue and exposing this ever deepening moral regression in our society? Even if Cal disagrees with you on this issue Tim, you can still give your analysis.

    Finally, sorry Tim, I don’t believe women should have a legal
    right to vote. As you yourself noted they support insane policies based on
    maternal instincts such as freely allowing illegal immigrants to flood
    into our nations without condition, and they tend toward socialist policies in general
    replacing the husband with and for big government. Sorry ladies, I love you,
    but you natural God given role in this world isn’t ordered toward the governance of a nation. I’m aware
    there are exceptions among you yet the trends are clear. The Rockefellers and our elitists funded the so called feminist movement from the start. If you don’t believe me, do your homework. 

    God be with you brother and friends.

  2. Ewwwww that is so GROSS..I shouldn’t have clicked on that link. Thank you. Now I can’t eat my dinner. But you do have a point. I think the conservative media news outlet are trying to normalize a mortal sin on a global scale. Homosexuality is a western defect. We do have people who are homosexuals but they don’t claim it as an identity. There are 9 million gays bis and trans in the United States alone. That is craZy Not to be picking on the lovely amazing americans who are some of the best human beings ive met in my life. Homosexuality has always been a western fad since ancient times.

  3. AFlowerofStTherese 
    Yes and no. Pagan Rome was a homosexual friendly empire. Catholic Europe was not. We didn’t tolerate homosexual acts. It was against the law. If/when it happened it happened behind closed doors in secret. The West has reverted back to paganism that’s why homosexuality is so prevalent.

    Believe it or not Islam is historically a homosexual and paedophile friendly religion:

    People don’t realise how much the West has influenced the rest of the world with Christian moral values (before our complete fall) even within nations that never embraced the Catholic Faith. We gained full military ascendancy over Islam after WW1/2 and then imposed a secular Christianised brand of government upon them. This included redefining country names and borders.

    Buddhism and false religions in general are ignorant of God’s law. Places like China who practice monogamy today historically did not. Monogamy, like communism, was a Western important, the former being good and the latter evil. Hinduism and Buddhism are polygamy friendly religions and often homosexual behaviour friendly too (minus the Christian West’s influence).

    Ironically Catholicism was an Eastern import. The Church began with Christ in Israel before its home base was finally established in Rome.

    Another example, homosexuality and pederasty was prevalent among Samuri’s in Japan and that nation has a long history of savagery. They were pacified, for now, after being annihilated in WWII by the USA’s nuclear power (the worst single war crime of the 20th century because it indiscriminately and unnecessarily slaughtered civilians). You can read an intro into this subject of Japanese homosexual Samurai’s here:

    It’s written by a homosexual friendly author (not a Catholic trying to argue against it). Conveniently Western pop culture glamourizes Samurai’s as virtuous saints while ignoring the real history.

    Japan remains ultra liberal sexually:

    Wherever homosexuality thrives so does savagery. The West is reverting back to its ancient pagan ways of barbarism before our very eyes as we’re seeing with these violent riots. What’s the next generation going to look like?

    We can have peaceful, prosperous and pious nations who worship the Holy Trinity/God and live in accordance with Catholic teaching (God’s law), or we can have the savagery of pagan Rome or worse. At this point in time the average Westerner would rather live in pagan Rome.

  4. AFlowerofStTherese 
    Here is a recent example of another Catholic leader, this time a Bishop (Barron), publicly defying Church doctrine in terms of homosexual acts and civil law:

    As for ruining your dinner, the description the video contained was clear as well as its wording “pashing!” Hahaha

    The point being, you could’ve waited (or not clicked on it)! 😉

    These scenes are the norm on western tv screens today. Our tv shows are saturated with homosexual propaganda and homosexual parades are celebrated in many of our cities on a yearly basis with everything you can (and would rather not) imagine being on full display.

    The “identity” aspect of it is pushed particularly hard in the West because we were historically Christian nations since Catholicism took root here. This radical Anti-Catholic/Antichrist shift toward sexual promiscuity as a whole has been militant since the 1960’s in particular. However we have had waves of sexual immorality at times during our history when societies rebelled against God and the Church, such as the French Revolution. The invention of modern contraceptives and birth control has taken this rebellion to unprecedented heights, heights that haven’t been seen since we were pagans (and our culture now is pagan without question). We no longer see the consequences of our immorality because it’s masked by contraceptives, abortion and government welfare programs, and because we choose not too. Pleasure and comfort are our new god’s, whereas virtue and sacrifice are culturally considered unnecessary moral evils in the West nowadays.

  5. Holy_Fire AFlowerofStTherese 
    9 million people is still insane to me. That is 68 times more than the population of my home country. That’s crazy. Is that a chastisement for slavery? I could be saying completely ignorant things. But here’s what I know living in melting pot area with all sorts of people from different cultural backgrounds. Each nation is battling different demons in different eras. Sometimes these demons are inherited and dormant; they could resurface at any generation down the line. Western ancient times as far back as aristotle and alexander the great preffered and celebrated adolescent gay sex (pedophilia). There was an online article I read a while back about an exorcist priest who helped a person possessed by the demon responsible for homosexual desires. 

    With the uprising of western priest pedophilia, a lot of my protestant friends tell me, the priesthood is just a place where gay men escape to. Which is not true.Because the priest in my home diocese do not struggle with pedophilia. They struggle with our own social ills and demons (womanizing) not pedophilia.

  6. Holy_Fire AFlowerofStThereseWherever homosexuality thrives so does savagery. The West is reverting back to its ancient pagan ways of barbarism before our very eyes as we’re seeing with these violent riots. What’s the next generation going to look like?
    Well, what do you expect from a generation that is formed by Marxism ideals. If I was a white person and I had to study the Martin Luther king’s civil rights movement outside of the christian context through marx lenses, year after year, that is a whole lot of accumulated white guilt. Your going to get people who will make up things to fight for. 
    Again, I’m not going after western culture. my great great grandfather was caucasian european. Im just naturally drawn to the west.

  7. AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 
    White guilt is also pushed in pop culture, namely hip hop and sports, as well as in movies and tv shows that constantly drill us with stories of black slavery. Most westerners believe every white American owned slaves, a gross exaggeration, and that slavery was exclusively a white thing. When the reality is it was white Christians who fought to end slavery around the world. The British ‘Magna Carta’ , like all good and holy inspirations was rooted in England’s Catholic history. It was instituted into English law in the 13 century long before their violent divorce from the Catholic Church/Faith.

    Not to mention the fact that there were blacks who had black slaves in America too.

    I am a former child of “white guilt” until the Catholic Faith finally liberated me from this cultural cancer.

    Critiquing the history of any nation is fine so long as it’s factual, balanced and put into context. Catholic nations weren’t free of error. There were times when Catholics in defiance of Church teaching violently attacked Jews. It never reached anywhere near the level of Nazi Germany. Instead of murdering millions like the Nazis a couple of thousand might have been killed in rare instances. It did happened, and was sparked by the paranoia and fear Islam caused according to Professor/Historian Rodney Stark, and the Church condemned it and quickly squashed the violence from these rogue Catholics each time. I believe some Catholics even received the death penalty for the crime. We’d have to ask Tim our expert historian. I’ve just picked up pieces of history here and there.

    Jesus’ own genealogy from the Blessed Virgin Mary has gentiles in it proving that race doesn’t matter nor does genealogy. Jesus also has sinners in his bloodline. King David himself was a repented adulterer and murderer.

    Also, there are gentile people of God in the Old Testament too who converted to Judaism.

    What you’re naturally drawn to within the West I would guess is her Catholic history and culture, a remnant of which remains to this day. Sadly we don’t understand that the prosperity and freedoms we still enjoy, as they continue to dwindle by the day, are the fruits of our former Catholic ancestors/culture. The farther we turn from that the more distant these fruits will continue to become.

  8. AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 
    The issue of paedophile priests is just as much an issue of homosexual priests/homosexuality. Who do we hear of being abused? BOYS! Who are abusing them? MEN!

    Studies and investigations have shown this figure was about 4% of priests. We hope the media and government spotlight has reduced this minority to nil.

    Homosexuals have infiltrated the Church in the West along with other nefarious groups such as Freemasons, Communists, etc. There is no doubt about that.

    I disagree with priests who have a homosexual attraction being ordained in the first place and disagree with them allowing to continue in the priesthood if/when their attraction becomes known, whether they act upon it or not. It’s a serious disorder and as we’ve seen with these cases of pederasty in the West. The risks are too grave.

    I agree with the Churches teaching in its fullness in a secular sense. A homosexual attraction is disordered but it isn’t a crime in and of itself. I just disagree with allowing those who suffer from this disorder into the clergy. It’s inn appropriate and puts them in a position to pray on confused boys/teenagers.

    I can state these major issues within the Church without losing an ounce of faith in Christ or the Catholic Magisterium because Christ Himself proclaimed:

    Matthew 16:17-19
    17 And
    Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because
    flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in
    18 And
    I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my
    church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
    19 And
    I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever
    thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and
    whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in

    The Church has always had her Judas’ yet she is still protected by God. The gates of hell shall not prevail against it! The Church is holy and infallible on matters of Faith and morals. The human element of error/evil is exactly that, human i.e. men and women rebelling against Christ and Church teaching.

  9. Holy_Fire AFlowerofStTherese 
    LOL. How did you know my great-great grandpa was part German? The scariest thought I’ve had is the possibility of being related to Hitler. lol. I do talk about him a lot. But its ok. There was a nun that once said every feeling of hatred/resentment towards our neighbor is the same hatred that drove Hitler to murder millions. The only difference is he had power and we don’t.

    A lot of the history textbook Ive studied were written and publised in the US were very pro-protestant anticatholic version of history e.g the history of the conquestors in latin america, the spanish empire, crusades etc.,We onced used a textbook that justified Henry VIII’S marriage to jane serymour..that whole drama with the split. oh my. The instructor asked us “Does anyone feel that the Church have a right to meddle in people’s private business?” lol. I said no. BECAUSE i was young, gullible and stupid. These versions of history were suppose to be pro-protestant considering that the early colonies were puritans. 
    Can you imagine, all my protestant friends do not know that Martin Luther was a priest and the bible belongs to the Church?  its hard to believe.

    2017 isn’t a good year to be white or to be a practicing Catholic. I’m away from home, living in a predominantly catholic place and Im still a minority.

  10. AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 
    AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 
    I’d add another distinction to the difference between us and Hitler, most of us have self-control when it comes to the fallen instinct to murder. Hitler did not!
    honestly and shamefully felt like murdering my mother
    before, and as a male, I had the power to do it. Did I? NO! Thank God!

    I later repented
    instead because what that nun said is true in essence. Christ said
    something along the lines of “He that is angry at his brother is guilty
    of murdering him.”

    On the topic of Hitler and blood
    relations I’ll borrow a Protestants research briefly solely because it
    came up first on a quick internet search:
    If Jesus’ family tree is full of knots who knows what knots we have in our genealogies?
    There wouldn’t be a single one among us that isn’t related to rapists and murderers, etc.

    I wouldn’t like to learn that I’m a relation of Hitler but at the same time it wouldn’t be the end of the world! 🙂

    have a modernist Catholic friend (e.g. he goes to Church when he
    pleases, is in a marriage where they use contraceptives, etc), whose
    grandfather was actually a Nazi soldier. I’m fairly sure he was an
    officer if not a general. This friend lives in another State and we
    haven’t spoken in some time. We grew up together. He merely mentioned it
    to me briefly with a laugh when we looked at his photo once when we were teenagers.

    not wrong about the revisionist history of Protestants that continues
    to taint world history to this day even as their influence fades.
    Everyone learns about the persecution of blacks and native Americans in
    US history. Who learns about the persecution of Catholics? Much of
    the Anti-Catholic hysteria that exists in our culture is rooted in
    Protestant slander and propaganda. To this day they continue to spread
    lies, hatred and exaggerations. There are countless Protestant
    Ant-Catholic sites online. The internet is awash with them.

    What’s that old by whoever it was? A lie repeated enough times becomes an established fact.
    One day Christ will reunite Christendom, one day! Hahaha

  11. Cal, I’ve never heard of a mic drop moment, but, now that I have, I totally agree that was one!  Domestic terrorism on college campus!
    Tim, it gets worse.  The club had to pay for “additional” security; therefore, what we witnessed was security and additional security (police) did nothing, nada, zip to stop the domestic terrorists.  Those terrorists were in control on that campus.
    Finally, for Cal and Tim, I almost lost my mind when I saw that a Berkley Professor, Alt left Robert Reich, told CNN that he was there (of course he was–probably one of the many professors protesting) … well here is the direct quoted test:
    “I was there for part of last night, and I know what I saw and those people were not Berkeley students,” Reich said. “Those people were outside agitators. I have never seen them before.”
    “There’s rumors that they actually were right-wingers. They were a part of a kind of group that was organized and ready to create the kind of tumult and danger you saw that forced the police to cancel the event,” Reich insisted. “So Donald Trump, when he says Berkeley doesn’t respect free speech rights, that’s a complete distortion of the truth.”
    “You think it’s a strategy by [Milo Yiannopoulos] or right-wingers?” asked host Don Lemon.
    “I wouldn’t bet against it,” Reich said. “I saw these people. They all looked very– almost paramilitary. They were not from the campus. I don’t want to say factually, but I’ve heard there was some relationship here between these people and the right-wing movement that is affiliated with Breitbart News.”
    Perhaps in New York, Tim, you have some dems that aren’t looneytoons, but anyone who stands with that party needs to awaken and shake the dust off and sever all ties.  Their make up is evil and so too is their agenda.

  12. Holy_Fire AFlowerofStTherese 
    I heard that the church has taken some measures in filtering potential candidates to the priesthood. I don’t think homosexual males are still allowed into the priesthood. You have to take a few psychological test to make sure you’re healthy, but its really at the discretion of the Bishop or director who gets to be ordained. 
      The diocese where I currently live has been terrible in handling pedophile cases. Its a little bit embarrassing and disgusting how the people in charge are more interested in protecting the priest than the innocence of the children being violated. It’s weird. I do know that the Bishops take an oath to protect their priest which may explain the pedophile coverups in our church. Thats one thing that remains a mystery to me. 

    On the prevalence of homosexuality in the media, if you were an executive producer concern about your ratings, would you market your show for 9 million bis and gays or the practicing christian minority which is probably lesser in numbers? Sex sells so i heard. 

    I don’t think Milo is an authentic gay male conservative. I think his personality is just a brilliant marketing ploy thought up to attract both sides of the political spectrum. He is so gorgeous. :D.

  13. AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 
    Tim has studied the cases and statistics on paedophilia/pederasty in depth and he came up with some interesting findings. He also accurately concluded that this crisis entered the Church from the “outside.” The problem, since the 1960’s wave of the sexual revolution in particular, is a societal problem that’s now entered the Church. Statistically speaking a public school teacher is more likely to abuse a minor than a priest.

    The other problem is our laws against it today. They are far too soft! I understand Tim is against the death penalty and I respect his right to be. JPII (whom I love as a Saint/Pope!) was against corporal punishment as well. Church teaching on the other hand respects a nations right to use corporal punishment in extreme cases. If I had my way paedophilia/pederasty would be a death penalty crime upon conviction. The perpetrators would of course be given access to a priest for baptism/confession if the fear of God convicted their hearts before the sentence was executed.

    We have no line in the sand in the West these days and that’s a major problem. The death penalty serves as a line in the sand against major evils. There is no real justice for this crime in the West anymore. In many cases the perpetrators  are out of jail soon after they are put in. It’s a joke. Is it really worth parents putting their kids through the trauma of a legal trial when they won’t receive justice anyway?

    It’s treated more like a disease than an evil. This to me comes across as though the recovery of a paedophile is valued higher than the innocence of a child. It’s sick.

    9 million is small in comparison to America’s 300 million population. Homosexual themes aren’t aired to appeal to a larger audience. They are aired to corrupt and pervert the culture and to undermine Catholic teaching.

    “I think his personality is just a brilliant marketing ploy thought up to attract both sides of the political spectrum.”

    We agree on this entirely. That’s exactly what my original message argued. I’m glad SOMEONE heard it! Hahahaha

    It might have fallen on deaf ears where Tim is concerned 😉

    Have a blessed week sister!

    God be with you!

  14. AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 
    Hey you,

    First a heads up! This will be my concluding message on this episode. Feel free to re-engage me for a chat some other time, on a new show. You’re welcome to respond to this if you please. I will read it.

    A few closing points…

    Chastity is absolutely essential for the priesthood. Any priest who struggles in this area, depending on the priest and his spiritual director, should be either released from the priesthood or suspended until he has been chaste for 2 years minimum (after any/every slip). Church leaders since the 1960’s have become far too relaxed in this area. Chastity is a basic requirement to being a priest. Men who can’t be chaste don’t belong in the priesthood until they are grounded in this virtue.

    It’s not disrespectful to hold Church leaders feet to the fire. Christ did it to the Pharisees. It is their job to inform and form the faithful in accordance with Church teaching as the spiritual leaders and directors of the Church and to live as the example. When they fail to uphold Church teaching  we have every right to hold them accountable in a direct yet respectful manner. There is no need to make it personal. Take Bishop Barron for instance. Those in his diocese need to share the Churches teaching with him straight from the Catechism and remind him of his duty to uphold it, clergy and laity alike. As I’m sure many have. His comments on same sex marriage did cause an uproar from Catholics who actually care about what the Church teaches, and rightfully so.

    I’ve got no personal vendetta against anyone who struggles with the experience of same sex attraction. A favourite Catholic media man of mine is Michael Voris. He lived the homosexual lifestyle for decades before his authentic Catholic conversion. In my eyes he was never even a homosexual, Christ has wiped his sins clean. His backstory, pre-conversion, is irrelevant to me.

    My issue is with Church leaders who fail to address the gravity of the act and the social engineering that we’re being bombarded with due to the failure of the clergy and Catholics in general to defend the Churches teaching both inside and outside of the Church. Homosexual acts are the tip of the ice burg. Pornography/masturbation/fornication, contraceptives, direct abortion, all these things and more are objectively mortal sins eating away the moral and social fabric of our families and nations.

    I personally struggled with pornography in the past. Upon my conversion and even during the lead up to it, I wasn’t offended by the objective truth that it is a mortal sin. I was convicted in my heart! Repentance begins with conviction! Why would a practicing homosexual want to repent when even Church leaders give him the impression it’s not that big a deal? It IS a big deal, as is pornography!

    What public resistance did Church leaders give before the US Supreme Court same sex marriage ruling? What public resistance have they given since? Where was the open public resistance against Hilary who conspired against the Church and wanted abortion legalised to anytime before the woman gives natural birth? They were scared about losing their tax exempt status right? They don’t seem to be concerned about this when they fight Trump’s reasonable refugee stance on properly vetting them (and if the reports are true pocket millions from the government funding them to help).

    Once upon a time sodomy was a death penalty crime in many US states. Now homosexual marriage is a constitutional right! How far we’ve fallen!

    Honestly, it feels like we’re living in the twilight zone today! Hahaha

    We have a Church full of men and women who think the greatest mortal sin in the world is “hurting a persons feelings.” It’s bizarre! Hahaha

    If the early Church fathers, upon Christ’s ascension, took the approach Church leaders today do, Christendom would NEVER have arisen! The first time a Christian was thrown in a lions den the rest of them would’ve buckled! Hahaha

    That’s why I’m predicting, unless something drastically changes beyond the mere political, a Church renewal will arise solely by the blood of martyrs. It’s well known, the blood of our martyrs are the seeds of the Church.


    God love you!

  15. Hi Cal/Tim,
    The media has completely metamorphosed from when I was younger journalists were impartial and they had credibility the notion of “Fake News” would be unthinkable. Rational thought is an alien concept as the Brain power is not in service for so many in society we are generating a pack animal mentality and we see the consequences. When you are deprived of free speech then the doctors may be instructed to remove the vocal chords at birth as you will be deprived of their usage
    When you consider the numbers Cal even if 99.9% of those who entered Germany from the countries that you mentioned were ok then there would be cells up to some 1400 potential troublemakers scattered within Germany from 1.4 million. Though I see the percentage a5% total would fill a football stadium I think that political myopia was implemented for short term gain but its backfired big time
    Hope to see you next week

  16. Holy_Fire AFlowerofStTherese

    LOL. Brother, I had a feeling that was you. lol. 

    “Tim has studied the cases and statistics on paedophilia/pederasty in depth and he came up with some interesting findings. He also accurately concluded that this crisis entered the Church from the “outside.” The problem, since the 1960’s wave of the sexual revolution in particular, is a societal problem that’s now entered the Church. Statistically speaking a public school teacher is more likely to abuse a minor than a priest.”

    – Well yea. Statistics show that it is not a problem with the priesthood which everyone claims. Tim was a little bit on the defensive side. I watched his video on that pedophilia and I thought it was okay. I don’t think it really addressed the problem, which is the culture deeming homosexuality as normal. 

    Church teaching on the other hand respects a nations right to use corporal punishment in extreme cases. If I had my way paedophilia/pederasty would be a death penalty crime upon conviction. The perpetrators would of course be given access to a priest for baptism/confession if the fear of God convicted their hearts before the sentence was executed.

    – To my understanding, Church has always been against Capital punishment. No one really has a right to take away anyone’s right, except during a just war.

    God Bless you, Brother. Have a nice weekend. Happy Friday!

  17. AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 
    Sister, (yes, it’s me), this is what the Church teaches on Corporal punishment today:

    Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been
    fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not
    exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way
    of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

    If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect
    people’s safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such
    means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the
    common good and more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.

    Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state
    has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed
    an offense incapable of doing harm – without definitely taking away
    from him the possibility of redeeming himself – the cases in which the
    execution of the offender is an absolute necessity “are very rare, if
    not practically nonexistent.”68”
    The Church obviously doesn’t encourage this punishment. It still recognises that it’s a Biblical and traditional teaching, and that governments have a right to adopt it for just causes.
    Let’s say for arguments sake we made paedophilia a lifelong prison sentence. That would mean, you and I, the tax payer, are supporting the costs associated with this persons existence for the rest of his life. That includes food, shelter, medical and prison maintenance and staff costs. Sorry, if I was a king, that wouldn’t fly with me. The person would be executed AND given ample opportunity to be baptised/Confess to a priest.

    When it comes to homosexual acts, the punishment would probably be a sentence of hard manual labour where the convicted person is working hard for his shelter and food in service to the society under strict supervision, more than making up for the expenses associated with his prison term. How long would the punishment be for a convicted homosexual act? I’m not sure, 5 years minimum, maybe 10 years. Each prisoner would have his own basic private room and shower to ensure no homosexual activity is possible. These prisoners would also have access to a priest. I’d probably even institute a Sunday ‘rest’ for those who go to Church. The rest will have to work Sundays too.

    Punishments are meant to help reform a persons character. Hard manual labour would help humble and therefore reform the person.

    These are purely my thoughts on the matter. The Catholic Catechism says the sins of Sodom are second behind murder on the sins that cry to heaven list (there are 4 sins named in total). It’s an extreme crime the modern world has desensitised us too.

    I agree that Tim’s video on the priest sex abuse scandal glaringly failed to address the homosexual priest component that is central to it. Other than that, he did a great job in that video. Our secular culture is a breeding ground for paedophilia and sin in general. What is well the Church draws her priests from? We the people. A corrupted people and culture, as we are today, is going to corrupt the priesthood sadly. Christ Himself will clean up this mess sooner or later, in the meantime we must prepare ourselves for the worst while hoping and praying for the best.

    Finally, check out this lecture when you can spare the time exposing the militant homosexual agenda and movement. It is SUPERB:

    May the prayers of Our Lady protect you and the love of God ignite you, sister!

  18. AFlowerofStTherese Holy_Fire 

    I should’ve added the following clip for our sceptics here. In the lecture shared in that previous message, the speaker notes how pederasty is an integral part of the homosexual culture and that it’s deliberately hidden from the public.

    Here, Cal’s hero, Milo, holds an event in which “conservative” celebrity Pamela Geller speaks. Take note of the background pictures:

    It has sexualised images of a male/s who are clearly underage. They look to be in their early teen years, max.

    How to wake up a deaf and dumb public that’s been brainwashed?

    That’s why we need tough laws against this evil. Obviously my 5-10 year hard labour law would apply to consenting adult charges. Any abuse of a minor would be a death penalty crime if I had the choice! 🙂

    Maybe even that 5-10 year prison sentence upon conviction for homosexual acts between consenting adults is too soft because of the serious risks of pederasty/paedophilia involved with this disordered attraction. In any case, I’m NEVER going to be a king! Hahaha

    No matter what, fear not because Christ has already overcome the world, as have the “obedient” faithful through Him, with Him, in Him in the unity of the Holy Spirit:

    John 15:12-14

    12 This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you.
    13 Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
    14 You are my friends, if you do the things that I command you.

    Lord, hear our prayers.

    God Bless

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